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WAC Automatic Bid in Danger

Posted on: December 11, 2010 12:05 am
Edited on: December 11, 2010 12:22 am
With the announcement today that Hawai'i is leaving the WAC for the Big West beginning in 2012-13, the WAC is now in danger of losing its automatic bid to the NCAA tournament.

As of now, the WAC roster for the 2012-13 season is Idaho, Louisiana Tech, New Mexico St, San Jose St, Texas-San Antonio, Texas St., Utah St.

The NCAA Bylaw that governs automatic bids in men's basketball says that a conference must have seven "core" institutions, and that six of those must have played together in the same conference for five years.  A core institution is one that has been a Division I member for at least eight years.  The WAC will have seven core institutions, but Hawai'i leaving drops the league to only five that have played together for five years.

Now, there is a two year grace period to try to get things back in line, but UTSA and Texas St. won't join until 2012-13.  They'll have to play in the league five years before the WAC meets both requirements again.  The grace period only covers the first two.

That means three years without an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament for the WAC.  That is, unless they can get the rule changed.

Category: NCAAB
Tags: WAC

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2010 11:36 am

WAC Automatic Bid in Danger

I just now saw your response, and you are right.  I didn't mean to group you in with the others who didn't understand the article.  However, I highly doubt that 4 more Southland schools will want to move over there.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2010 11:34 am

WAC Automatic Bid in Danger

You guys are missing the point.  No matter who they bring it at this point, there will not be 6 schools that have played together in the same conference for the last 5 years, unless they pull 6 schools all together from another conference.  This means that they will have 3 years where this requirement isn't met, and they lose the automatic bid unless they can get the rule waived.
Also, BYU went independent in football, and joined the WCC in all other sports.  The WCC doesn't have football, so this isn't an issue there.

Since: Dec 11, 2010
Posted on: December 11, 2010 2:30 pm

WAC Automatic Bid in Danger

Didn't BYU join the WAC for everything except football.  And they should stay affliated with the conference for football too.
What confusion- Colorado and Utah to the Pac-10, Hawaii to the Big West (that at least makes sense), TCU to the Big East, and the WAC, Mountain West, and even the Big 12 conference in disarray.

Since: Dec 24, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2010 11:49 am

Can the WAC raid the Southland again?

That is a good idea, IF they can persuade some of those Southland teams to move their football programs to the FBS level. If those teams don't want to play FBS football, there is no reason for them to join the WAC. Travel costs are much lower in the Southland.

Supposedly Stephen F. Austin, Lamar, and Sam Houston State have considered moving up to FBS football.  Even if the WAC convinced all three of those schools to make the move, they would still need one more Southland school to move to the WAC in 2012 to keep the WAC's autobid to the NCAA hoops tournament. 

If the WAC gets 4 more Southland schools to go with UTSA and Tx St, then the six Southland schools will form the six-schools-together-for-five-years

group that would allow the WAC to keep its basketball tournament autobid.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2010 11:37 am

WAC Automatic Bid in Danger

I thought Denver was joining too? Perhaps just football?

Well if they aren't, the could just add 5 teams from Southland to make it a 12 team conference. I'm not very familiar with the WAC to think if they'd do something like that, but it seems like a possibility if they can't change it.

Add Texas-Arlington, SE Louisiana, SFA, Sam Houston, and Norhtwestern St.

McNeese St. and Nicholls St. are also possibilities.

CC doesn't have a football program, but they haven't been in that conference very long anyway. MAYBE they would make the 5 year mark. I would just stick with 5 of the first 7.

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